We are not singular beings but rather multidimensional, interconnected, and interwoven, and our relationships with others have a profound impact on our well-being. In this episode, Anu Abraham explores the interconnectedness of our multidimensional selves. Anu shares her insights on how our spirit, light, job, and physical body are all connected and interwoven, and how our well-being and relationships with others are affected by this. She also touches on the subject of pain and how it is a signal from our inner being that something is wrong. She teaches us how to listen more intently to the messages our bodies try to send us. She offers valuable insights and practical tips on how to navigate complex relationships and build stronger connections with others and with ourselves. Join us in discovering and understanding our multidimensional selves.
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Understanding The Self: Navigating Multidimensional Relationships With Anu Abraham
WE ARE INTEGRATED WITH OURSELVES AND WITH OTHER HUMAN BEINGS
I have to create a lot of white space in my calendar whenever I connect with this woman because our conversations last for hours. I’m not quite sure how we are going to fit all this in 45 to 60 minutes, but we are going to give our best shot. We are kindred spirits, and we just lose a track of time when we start having conversations. My guest is Anu Abraham. I’m going to bring her in early. Typically, I read the bio and then bring in our guests, but I’m going to bring her in first. Anu, welcome to the show finally.
Thank you. It is such a pleasure to be here. I’m excited about our conversation.
I am, too. I’m just hoping we can fit in as much value as we can in 45 to 60 minutes. Our conversations tend to be an hour and a half or longer. I have to admit. The first time that I connected with Anu, we had our conversation that we connected to a Zoom call, and the first words out of my mouth were, “What a spirit.” That’s why I couldn’t wait to bring you on the show. We might have the opportunity for other people to stop the show and go, “What a spirit.”
Let me read the beginning of your bio, and then I’m going to let you finish it. I know you don’t like to talk about yourself a whole lot, but I’m hoping we can get at least 2 or 3 minutes out of your life story so that the audience can connect with you. Anu is born and raised in the northern suburbs of New York in a traditional Indian-Christian family. Anu always felt she was “different.” She loved to play and have fun, but also lived in a state of confusion, not knowing where she fit in and belonged. Her culture and religion combined set forth beliefs and conditions that felt confiding and restricted to her, but she always found a way to breathe into life.
Since childhood, she was empathetic, compassionate, and highly sensitive to people and animals. She knew early on that she wanted to relate to and uplift people while also playing a role in their care and well-being. She obtained a Bachelor’s and Doctorate degree in Physical Therapy. She walks to the linear path set before her, assuming she had her life and career “all figured out.” That’s no easy task. I know many twenty-year-olds have got their life all figured out, but we will get into it. On January 1st, 2006, she experienced a traumatic event that brought everything she thought she knew to an end. That’s where I’m going to stop reading your bio, and pick up the story from there. What happened to you?
It was leading up to New Year’s Day. I was best friends with my brother. We were incredibly close. People thought we were twins, just a very strong psychic connection. On New Year’s Day, I got a call from his fiancée when we are all celebrating and peak of our joy. We are celebrating his wedding coming up, the new fellowship that he got at early acceptance for, and there was a lot that we were at the peak of his life in celebration. I got a call that he didn’t wake up that morning. It turned out that my brother passed in his sleep from a brain aneurysm while he was away celebrating a joyful event in her family. All of a sudden, everything just stopped. I was the one who had to tell my parents.
I remember the weight of all of it. I remember my brain going into, “Wait a minute. I’m half hungover still. I can’t believe I have to do this. I have to deliver this news.” What stood out to me the most was the pain that hit me immediately in my mid-back. Now, as a physical therapist, I was like, “I will deal with this later. I have a whole team I can go to.” It was that pain that just started increasing and taking over through this process of the funeral and the days that were winding down. It was unrelenting. I went to PTs, chiropractors, and everyone I knew at the time who could technically help me “fix the pain.”
It wasn’t until about six months later when I got introduced to a shaman, this other world I never even knew existed. When I went to him, I never filled down any intake forms, and never told him anything about me. I just showed up for the appointment. He started by saying, “Your brother is in the room.” That’s not a typical thing. It’s not a charlatan. I knew immediately what is this. Where am I? I also knew I was meant to be there. I kept rolling with it. I said, “The reason I came is that I just have this mid-back pain that won’t stop. It is so loud, and it’s overtaking everything. I can’t function. It’s just the main consumption of me right now.”
He broke it down for me and helped me understand. 1) That’s where you are holding your heartbreak. 2) That’s where you are holding grief, not just for yourself but everyone around you because that’s the empath in you. 3) That’s your version of survivor’s guilt. He was right on all three accounts. There was an aspect of me that’s like, “If it was me that passed, everyone wouldn’t be so sad. Everyone wouldn’t be so blindsided and traumatized.” It’s like the dam broke, the tears came out. With the lightest of hands, he touched my mid-back, and it just released. He drove home the point, the main reason this happened is that you are meant to do this work.
I’m coming from a science background at this point. I’m like, “You are right. Okay.” It just stayed with me for days for I was like, “What happened?” It went away, and it didn’t come back. Interestingly enough, I studied under him for ten years thereafter, because I had to understand what happened. I went down the rabbit hole. I plummeted into the healing arts. I wanted to understand shamanism, mysticism, and the multi-dimensionality of the body. It was so expansive, but the best part is as I went through this entire journey of discovering, it was all about remembering. I remembered.
My gifts started coming back online that I was born with, that I had tamped down and suppressed in trying to contort myself, try to belong, and try to be like everybody else when I was never really meant to be. As a child, all I wanted was to just fit in. I didn’t want to stick out. I wanted to be part of the pack. I’m a pack animal. You can also be an alpha and a pack animal. They can coexist together.
I have to say from that moment, I have never been able to approach a person in front of me or a body the same way. I had to bring it in. When I was working at the hospital at the time, that’s how I treated hospital patients. I made sure that their spirit was included. I made sure we talked about the emotions they were holding and the traumas that were in their tissues.
Without even putting them through the exercises of, “Now, you are going to lift your leg this way and arm this way,” they would start to genuinely heal from the inside out. Genuine relief of symptoms because we were hitting the root at the core. That’s all I’m interested in. I’m not interested in symptoms, leaves, or branches. I want to get to the root of what the body is holding. Where are the block, lack of consciousness, and flow restricted and what’s causing that? Is it held emotions, trauma, or a simple one belief?
What it comes down to, I’m noticing over the years, I would say that it’s this belief in separation that the mind is separate from the body, the body is separate from the spirit, the heart is separate from the mind, and the spirit is separated from the body because of trauma. Now, it’s hovering above. Separation is the root of every single problem on some level. We just go in, and find out what’s being created in your body that’s creating symptoms, problems, or conflict “in your life.” That’s what brought me here now, I would say, was this massive personal journey of transformation, death, rebirth, and dissolving myself and old beliefs that limit my spirit and consciousness so that I can continue to expand and lead everyone along the way with me that I can.
People often talk about your body talking to you and that pain can be the way that your body is talking to your consciousness to say, “You got a problem here.” Whether it be cancer, liver disease, lower back pain, or whatever the tendency is, the body talks to you. The easiest accepted explanation for that is all from the physical pain saying if you got a problem with a liver, cancer, or something, that pain is telling you that you have got a physical problem. You got your genes, your DNA is involved here, or something of that.
Ilk, if you will. If you are reading, “Let’s go to the doctor and get the physical item fixed, or at least understood this, take some X-rays, and see what physically is going on.” There’s not much recognition. I can’t say understanding, because I think there’s enough understanding out there, but you have got to be recognized that your body has other languages that if you have got spiritual soul-based traumas or issues, your body’s holding onto it. It’s not just the physical. The physical is just a manifestation of a spiritual issue.
All pain is a form of communication. It’s a signal, “Something’s going on.” What we are starting to find is people aren’t the best listeners.
All pain is a form of communication. It’s a signal that something’s going on.
That’s an understatement.
It’s true, whether to others or to themselves. There’s listening that’s required in this process in order to heal. Usually, within the first few minutes, people that are not necessarily fully spiritual or understanding of the word energy, it doesn’t matter. Within a few minutes, if I ask someone, “What’s the pain telling you,” I would say a hundred percent of people are like, “I need to stop overdoing it, I need to stop overgiving, or I need to let go of this grudge I have with my mom.” If you create a space for people who truly listen, they will hear it themselves. That’s the beauty of understanding that the body can heal itself. It just needs the right factors. Listening is one of them.
There’s the, “Now, you listened,” and then there’s the, “You got to execute.” There is a physical body that’s an aspect of the body. It does need to be tended to. It’s physical. It’s how we show up in the world, and it does need to be taken care of. There’s movement, certain foods, and hydration required. There are other aspects of, where you source your energy. Are you plugged in? Are you connected to the ground? Are you plugged into a source, your god, or the universe, however, you want to call it? We are not single-cell batteries. We are meant to plug into something.
We are all connected. It’s not only connecting to the Earth, it’s also connecting to others as a spiritual collective.
You need to connect to yourself first so that you know who you are when you are connecting to others, so you don’t lose yourself as I did in the past. Contort yourself just to belong. You are meant to be exactly as you are, and connect interdependently from that place.
As you and I were discussing in the green room, though, society and the world puts pressure on you to compartmentalize your life, such that we don’t take quietness to just be and to understand that it’s all integrated. We see it as a complex problem. Whenever we do that, we want to compartmentalize or pull it out into pieces so it’s less complex, so that we can have a better understanding of it. When we do that, we start pulling apart that integrativeness of it.
That goes back to separation. People are of the mindset that emotions and emotionality is separate from the body. In my intake form when I ask about jobs, and purpose, what does me hating my job have to do with my back pain? Only everything. You are just doing a 9:00 to 5:00 operation, but that’s not your purpose. When people are connected to their purpose, their health changes. They are fueled by it. There’s a different vitality. There’s a different light in their eyes, their light grows.
The light that’s supposed to be here, that light that exists within everyone. It has to be nurtured and fostered. It’s part of our health. When we are not feeling well, we can feel our light dimming down. It’s important to know that, too. There is no separation between that spirit, light, job, relationship, and aspect of self and how it relates to the physical body. They are all connected and interwoven. It’s all multi-dimensional. We are not a single plane.
When I was in the business world at Boeing, one of my favorite topics, and I was pushing within the company for Boeing to think about this, but it’s called a system of systems approach where you have individual systems, but they are all interacting and contributing to the bigger system. From a physical perspective, you can think of the body as having different systems.
You have a respiratory system, skeletal system, cardiac system, and muscle system that all have to plug into the big system that the brain is managing to make this physical form move and do what it needs to do. If we don’t take it a step further to say that, there’s more than just that. There’s this body that’s called a soul system of which the human physical body is part of, but it’s contributing to the bigger system. Not only the individual and their soul system, but how that soul interconnects with the Earth and the other souls in the world.
That speaks to the oneness. That’s the interplay of oneness. You and I have had brilliant, honest conversations about understanding what we see in the world. There has to be an understanding of when we see good in the world, that’s an extension of us. That’s part of us. We see “bad or evil” in the world. That’s also an extension of us. That’s the part that people have the hardest time with. That’s where there’s that separation, “I would never do that. I would never act like that. I would never think like that.” Not so.
We all have a shadow. That’s that unconscious material, that’s the darkness that lingers behind us that is meant to be integrated and transmuted. When we keep it separate, it grows and overtakes conversations, relationships, and dynamics, and it’s what does the talking. What we are seeing right now with the darkness in the world is it’s a collection of all of our shadows put together in this unconsciousness that’s playing out. Our job is to transmute and alchemize our own personal shadow, darkness, and material to grow it into more light.
I was turning away from you for a minute because I was looking for a book. There was a gentleman who wrote a book for men that talked about the growth of a man is about the ability of the man to understand and manage the dog. He used the term dog for that shadow, the primate, the primitive physical manhood that maturity, growth, and so forth of a man is to sit with, understand, and become friends with the shadow and learn how to manage that. What would you call it? When you think of a dog, it’s barking all the time, doing its own thing, not being part of the pack and just a wild dog that’s out there. How do you tame the wild dog? It’s okay to pull it out every once in a while, but it’s not okay for that to be who you are.
That’s a brilliant point. Look, there’s wild in all of us that gets tamped down. Not all of it is meant to be tamped down and suppressed, there’s a place for it. When there is actual danger, that’s where it’s meant to exist. It’s part of our survival system. When there isn’t, we are not meant to live like that. You are right, we are meant to befriend our shadows. When we look at our shadow, what we see is, “That’s where my purpose is.”
We are meant to befriend our shadow. When we look at it, what we should see is, “That’s where my purpose is.”
Most people are afraid to look at their shadow because they think this thing that’s derailing them, but when you look at it, it’s informing your purpose. That’s why it’s meant to be up-leveled, transmuted, integrated, and brought into the present time so that you can move forward and integrate with it. It’s meant to be integrated into you, not destroyed, dissolved, and obliterated, but befriended and integrated into our being.
I know a lot of people find purpose and make choices in their life to help others with the trauma that they went through. My audience knows I have talked about it quite a bit. I had bad self-esteem in high school, college, or my early-twenties. I went through therapy and self-help books. I just grabbed onto anything that would help me to heal that trauma. Even now, I’m working with a forgiveness coach to work on that trauma and to get rid of it out of the body, as what we have been talking about. I got rid of it out of the heart and mind through therapy.
Here I am as a life leadership and business coach trying to help people as someone who went through it, has the experience and become comfortable with it, and can talk live on a podcast about it extensively because I have embraced that shadow. I have walked over to my front door, took this thing called shame, and opened the door, and said, “Sayonara. See you later. You are not going to be part of this world, at least my world.”
You were brave enough to open the door and looked at it first. Most people avoid it.
I befriended it. I said, “I got shame in my life.” I recognized and befriended it and said, “It’s present in my life, but it doesn’t have to be, so I’m going show it the door.” It’s part of the healing process.
It’s part of the experience of being human. We experience shame, take on shame, learn shame, then teach shame. It’s all a cycle. It’s this thing, guilt. All that’s meant to be transmuted. To go back to your point, I’m finding the thing that we struggle the most with is what we are here to teach. It’s what we are here to learn first and heal from, and then to teach. Just like you, you took your struggle. I struggled with grief and trauma. After that initial one, it just kept going. I think I had about 12 deaths in about 12 years. I was just being hammered with loss upon loss. It was a lot. I descended into the underworld, and that’s where I found my power. That’s where I sourced my power from.
Most people resist the dissent. There’s dissent at the dark night of the soul that we all go through. If we are brave enough to surrender to it and let the process take us, that’s what forms us and gives us that fortitude, clarity, and strength. When it’s done with us, we rise back up. Organically, we just start to ascend and float back up to the surface without whatever we don’t need anymore. That is a process that most people resist with their everything because let’s face it, annihilation isn’t fun. It’s not fun to be annihilated, not know who you are, and to have no sense of, “If I’m not doing in the world, what purpose do I have?”
Wait. My purpose is to be and to be without this, because this thing, trauma, or pattern is the very thing that’s covering my essence, my very medicine within me, in my being, soul, and heart. That which I’m meant to bring forward, it gets covered up with all these traumas, experiences, beliefs, the overdoing, and the belief that doing is the only way to “be successful.”
When we live in this third-dimensional world, everyone’s measuring success by what have you done, what have you accomplished, who are you, what accolades you have, and how many followers do you have. There are so many external measures that try to tell you, “Now I deem you as successful because you did this thing, you have this thing, and you have done this thing.”
When people ask me, “What’s your definition of success?” I say, “It’s living my why out loud every day.” There’s no measurement there in dollars, Lamborghinis, homes, or anything of that nature. It’s just, “Have I found my purpose in life? Have I found my why? Am I ‘executing’ on that on a daily basis?” Such that, like you said, that rising happens to a point where I have joy and happiness in my life every single day.
Even if it doesn’t look the same, joy can look like peace one day. It can change evolving. What you are talking about is that deep satiation and fulfillment. It was funny, I was talking to a friend and I was like, “I am wiped. I had a killer twelve-hour back-to-back day, and I am just knackered, but I have never been more fulfilled.” You can see the light in my eyes. You can see I was just so fulfilled. I was so happy. There is work.
You still have to show up for your client and for life, but that soul satisfaction and heart fulfillment that doesn’t necessarily look like a cheesing smile on the outside every day, there’s a smile in the heart and soul that just translates, and that’s priceless. The work that it takes to get there is priceless. I have heard countless times, “Why didn’t you ever talk about your doctorate? People need to know that. People like that. It’s a big deal.” I’m like, “It was far more work for me to become who I am than to go through that program.” Yes, that was hard work. There was a challenge.
I was stretched, but I have never been stretched, challenged, or confronted with various aspects of myself, patterns, and what I have allowed in my life than through this process of true healing and transformation. There’s no degree for that, that’s just personal life experience. One thing I’m grateful for is I don’t have to advertise it. It becomes part of yourselves. There’s a living intelligence to that. Through that integration process, people just know. They can feel it. There’s a vibration there. There’s a resonance there that people respond to. I let that do the talking.
For me, your example about you don’t talk much about, I’m a co-author on two patents. I don’t ever talk about it. You can go to my LinkedIn profile, and it’s there, but I just don’t. A lot of people would see that as being hugely successful because there are not many people in this world that have patents next to their names. The reality is Boeing owns the patents, but if you look under the author title, I’m 1 of 2 people. Once again, it goes back to what your definition of success is. Did it take work? Yes. Hours of thinking about the idea and sitting with lawyers, the descriptions of the patents, and all that type of work. It’s a nice little accolade, but the reality is it’s not anywhere in my definition of success.
I think you and I agree on many things. This one particularly that our successes in our authenticity and sincerity. That’s part of our medicine, we are comfortable authentically being who we are and showing up as we are. That goes to the point of self-leadership, sovereignty, and autonomy. You can’t see, but Andy’s dancing.
I’m glad you went there because, in my head, I was ready for some questions to start getting us to self-leadership and leadership since that’s a topic discussed a lot on this show. Go ahead. My dancing interrupted you.
It’s a shame. There’s that word, shame. It’s a shame the readers can’t see how cute that dance was. It was your happy dance. The point of that was the embodiment. There are leaders out there that do a lot of talking, but they don’t live by their talk. It’s not a lived experience. It’s not integrated with their selves. Whether we have the words for it or not, intuitively and subconsciously, we can’t take that seriously. I know I can’t. I have a really hard time listening to people that are incongruent. When there’s a dissonance, you are saying one thing, but because one of my gifts is tuning into the subconscious material and body language, which you don’t have to say a word, “I got it.”
There are leaders who do a lot of talking, but they don’t live by their talk. It’s not a lived experience. It’s not integrated with their selves.
It’s communicative. I pick up vibration, the unconscious, and body language. Everything that your body is saying is not what your mouth is saying, therefore, I’m not interested. I think the new level of leadership that’s uprising right now are the people that are seeing the value of the embodiment. That’s integrity. There’s integrity in that. When you walk your walk. It’s not about arrogance, it’s the annihilation of that. It’s knowing I’m here for a reason and service. I’m a vessel and conduit. What’s coming through me is informing me in this way.
In order to get to that place, you have to get the stuff out of the way and that the body holds the issues and tissues. That’s always going to create static or interference on some level, in your work, relationships, and health, if you don’t clear it out. That’s why I love working with leaders, change makers, and thought leaders because it’s my favorite place to just add juice behind people that reach so many people because they are just that much more powerful. The reach expands. They are amplified. It’s just so satisfying.
You and I had a long conversation once about the word, essence.
My word of the year.
For me, the word, essence, the visual that comes to mind for me is I’m picturing this soul, energy, and living being that has certain attributes, values, and core. The visual that comes off of it is the essence. If another soul comes up to another soul and visualizes it, it sees the essence of it. For me, leadership is a lot like essence. You have this internal work that’s being done and working on the core in terms of values and authenticity like you said. The leadership of others is the essence of self-leadership. Would that resonate with you?
100%. It’s inspiring others to trust their essence, come, emerge, and lead others. Leadership is not just about, “Here I come, I’m leading the way, follow me,” it’s inspiring those around you to step up to their sense of sovereignty and full potential, and then letting that be the domino effect.
Giving them safe, emotional, and spiritual space with which to do that.
There’s a timing to everything. That’s where surrender comes in. You can do everything you are meant to do, tackle everything that’s on your plate, and handle your emotions. Sometimes, there’s just timing and readiness where things come into alignment. There’s that, too. If we had this conversation several years ago, it would have been a very different conversation because we are ever-evolving, and that includes the expansion of our essence and more space in our bodies. As we dissolve and release old stuff, material, issues, traumas, and thoughts, our essence has more room to take up space in our vessels and bodies.
There’s timing to everything. That’s where surrender comes in. You can do everything you are meant to do, tackle everything on your plate, and handle your emotions. Sometimes, there’s just timing and readiness where things come into alignment.
That’s what getting rid of the traumas out of the body allows more white space, more space to be available to allow that essence to just grow. I’m a visual person. The visual I have always had is if we were a light bulb, the traumas that we have in our lives have taken black cloth and put it over the light. I can’t imagine 12 deaths in 12 years, all the grief, the amount of black cloth that was going over your light, all that trauma that has to be cleared, forgiven, or whatever needs to be done to clear it so that you are pulling that cloth off the light bulbs so that your essence, who you are, is allowed to shine for the world to see.
Thankfully, I was actively participating in energy work at the same time. I did have support as I was moving through it, but there’s still time for that grieving process. It’s like you are climbing up Mount Everest, and you think you are almost getting somewhere. Here comes my light again, and I’m feeling happy, and then you just start rolling down again. It’s like, “Now, I got to dust myself off, and we got to start again.” You realize you don’t fall as low as before and you don’t stay down as long. There’s a resilience that takes over. That spirit of resilience that comes through all of us takes over.
It’s like, “I’m not going to live like this. I’m not going to live at the bottom of the cliff. I’m going to pick myself up, and I’m going to get to where I’m going.” That determination and resilience are really, I would say, the saving grace in all of it. In the community I had around me, I was very deeply supported. That makes all the difference in the world. If I had the nerve to say, “I am not loved, seen, or supported,” that would be audacity. That makes all the difference in the world to be supported, loved, heard, and seen in the process of falling down and picking yourself back up.
That analogy that you made was brilliant because I did feel like I was behind a veil of some sort. In that formation process, there was a veil. The veil kept thinning, and there was an exhilaration and a, “Wait. I’m not ready,” and then, “Come on. Get off me already,” and then, “Wait. Put it back on.” The dance with the veil was its own dance. It’s not even a thinning of the veils. I wonder how many veils are even present anymore, collectively speaking. It just feels like there’s a thinning of the veils. I feel like they are dissolving and porous.
Let’s say somebody is able to understand this integration, does the work to clear the traumas, and their uniqueness and light shine in the world. Outside of having joy and happiness present every day in their life, what other kinds of benefits show up for a person that goes through that work?
Vitality. There’s a massive change in people’s health. I watched it, especially in the last few years. There is a mass efflux from people that are leaving “jobs” to move into their purpose, and their health completely changes. If you think about it, you are not going in like the Dunkin Donuts man anymore, “Time to make the donuts.”
You don’t need the “physical comfort” that that donut brings. You start getting dopamine and other things going in your head.
You don’t need to numb out to life. I remember reading somewhere that Sunday nights are the highest percentage of heart attacks because of the thought of having to go to work the next day and dreading it. I don’t think like that. I love my work. I love showing up. It completely changed, I would say, when I left the healthcare system where there were parameters over me, molds, conditioning, and ways in which I had to “play the game.” When I couldn’t take it anymore, and I’m like, “This is not in integrity to how the work I meant to do is meant to be delivered.”
It’s not meant to be part of this sick system. It’s not meant to be part of this approval system like, “Can I please see this person and help them get better?” “Yes, you’ve got two visits, that’s it, and then sayonara.” It’s not really how that works with Parkinson’s, but okay. I just got tired of that game. When I left, the healing that happened in my body spontaneously just because I had more time and interest. I didn’t need the level of self-care that I needed just to “get through the day.” I didn’t have to numb myself anymore. I didn’t have to rely upon those kinds of measures. I would say physical health and the way in which I related to people changed. I showed up differently.
Let’s talk about that show-up. What does it do about the people that start showing up in your life?
It’s interesting. With that, all of a sudden, people start to change in your life. There is this letting go process where you have outgrown people, and you have to allow that process. It’s part of the growth and transformation, where there’s no resonance anymore, or there’s a distance in where you are at, it’s just different places. It brings in more people that are like that. When those people come together, and purpose-minded people come together, purpose-driven people, service-driven people come together, the changes that you can create together and the collaboration, there’s this invisible support system that comes through. There’s an invisible strength. No matter what, I can go big because they have got my back.
That’s why you are in my life.
Thank you. Same. I’m grateful for that.
As am I.
Yes. There’s a resonance here. We are here for this. It’s deeply in ourselves, and it’s the thing that gets us up in the morning and the thing we are excited to go back to the next day.
If you think about it logically, connecting the dots, if I didn’t have the self-esteem problems, I wouldn’t have been on that journey, the traumas in my life, done the work and found my authentic true self and purpose in life, therefore, I would not be attracting people like yourself into my life. Even if you are sitting here reading this episode going on, these two are smoking dope type of things, you can still logically put your mind around that notion.
It’s like-mindedness, like-heartedness, like-soulness, and spiritedness, or however you want to call it. It’s more than the mind.
It allows for expandedness. Your life, spirit, and soul grow to the point that they can take on more.
There is more consciousness. The beauty of it is we get to put our consciousness together, and we get to create something new and different. The problem-solving or the creative solutions that are meant to be generated is through bringing this consciousness together. That’s how we create a new reality and new dimension.
I’m glad you used the word generated because our time has run out. I have got to ask you the one question we ask every guest, we don’t want you to be any different.
Yes, don’t bring me back to that old trauma of not belonging. We have done the healing on that but go ahead.
There are no right or wrong answers. The phrase we always say is it’s about what’s in your heart, and soul, and about what the words ‘generate your value’ mean to you.
Once you go through the process of discovering who you are at the core essence, to me, it’s bringing that forward and inspiring others. It’s living from that place. To me, that’s what your authentic medicine is, the medicine of your being. I know that there are people that are just genuinely kind. They don’t have to try. It’s not fake. There’s no effort. In just being in their presence, there is a healing that happens. There’s a medicine that happens. They generated their value towards me or others and created healing. It’s bringing forward your unique gifts, talents, medicine, and authentic self, being in that, living in that, and allowing that to inspire others and to affect others. Instead of being an effect of the room, it’s affecting the room, being the change.
I’m afraid to ask the next question because I just want to monopolize your time because I just get so much out of our conversations. If somebody is inspired or wants to connect with you in some way, whether it be for your services, wisdom, or whatever that might be, what’s the best way that somebody can reach out to you?
You can find me on my website, AnuAbraham.com. You could find me on LinkedIn under my name, @AnuAbraham. You can also find me on Instagram, @__AnuAbraham.
I can’t thank you enough for taking the time out of your day or week, our many conversations to come out on the show, and hopefully, as we said, make a ripple out in the world.
I thank you enough. Thank you for having me. It was such a pleasure, honor, and joy. We can do this again, hopefully, soon.
We will do it again. Zach and I are building a virtual hotel where we are reserving rooms for certain people that we think have the wisdom to fill out more than just an hour of conversation. If we are going to allow value to be created, then we have to allow for all the wisdom to come out. For some folks that means, “We’ve got to have 2, 3, 4, or 5 conversations here on the show in order to get it all out.” We will reserve a room for you in the hotel. How’s that?
That would be amazing. Bless that venture. I would happily be a guest in that. It would be an honor. Thank you so much.
My pleasure. For the audience, I knew we called them golden nuggets. We are hoping that you, the audience, got some golden nuggets out of our conversation about the importance of finding your uniqueness, authenticity, and essence, that when you have that pain in your arm or your back, don’t just look at the physical stuff. Look at the emotional and spiritual things that are going on in your life that may be the true root issue that you need to go after. It’s happened in my life, so this is not made-up stuff.
Not at all. Remember that it’s not separate. What’s happening in your body, it’s not separate. They are all interwoven. There’s uniqueness in all of it.
What’s happening in your body is not separate. They are all interwoven. There’s uniqueness in all of it.
As much as I have talked about love and fear on this show, also remember our words about separation. It’s human nature to want to separate things to make them less complex in an effort for the mind to understand them better. When we do that, we start setting ourselves up for a potentially bad way by keeping it separated instead of looking at how it’s all integrated.
We hope that this episode has inspired you to do the inner work and self-leadership such that the value that you generate for yourself as well as for others in your life and in the world will only grow. That’s the whole purpose why this show exists, and I’m doing what I’m doing in my coaching service and in this show.
If you read this and think, “Full of golden nuggets,” but then you don’t share it with your friends, neighbors, and in your network, then that value doesn’t get delivered. That value truly doesn’t get created because it didn’t land in somebody’s life. I ask you if you felt there was tremendous value in this conversation between me and Anu, share it because that’s your way and participation. Once again, integration, the way that you can integrate with Anu and me in our conversation is to share it so that the value gets generated out in the world. I can’t encourage you enough to do that.
With that being said, have a great day and week. Generate your value in the world. Be a unique individual, there’s no shame in that. Shame does not exist if you are truly living your truth and uniqueness in this world. I can’t say enough to inspire you to go do that because then the value does get created in the world. With that being said, have a great day. Take care. Thank you for joining us on this episode of the show.
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ABOUT ANU ABRAHAM
Anu Abraham is a Catalyst for Transformational Healing on all levels: physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual.
Born and raised in the suburbs of New York in a traditional Indian Christian family, Anu always felt she was “different.” She loved to play and have fun, but also lived in a state of confusion, not knowing where she fit in and where she belonged. Her culture and religion combined set forth beliefs and conditions that felt confining and restrictive to her, but she always found a way to breathe into life.
Since childhood, Anu was empathic, compassionate, and highly sensitive with people and animals. She knew early on that she wanted to relate to and uplift people, while also playing a role in their care and wellbeing.
Obtaining a Bachelors and Doctorate Degree in Physical Therapy, Anu walked the linear path set before her assuming she had her life and career “all figured out.”
On January 1st, 2006 she experienced a blind-siding traumatic event that brought everything she thought she knew to an end.
When all of her training, knowledge, and expertise within the Physical Therapy world couldn’t resolve the pain she felt in her own body, Anu’s curiosity led her to seek out alternative healing. It was in this arena that she was able to identify and access old emotions, memories, and trauma that were creating pain and anxiety. They weren’t just in her mind. They were buried in the subconscious cells of her body, and creating patterns that kept repeating themselves on loops. While this trauma initially created disconnection in Anu’s mind/body/spirit, it also was an experience that served as the catalyst for her own transformation, and set her forth on her true purpose.
As she explored and learned to apply the healing tools and techniques, she began to rewire, the cycles started to break, and so did the walls of the boxes that she allowed herself to be placed in. She knew it was time to be the pioneer she was meant to be. Her natural born gifts came online, her life and body upleveled, and her soul was ablaze. She had no other choice but to live freely, as directed by her heart and soul, which is what she knew she was meant to inspire within others.
From 2006 onwards she brought this work forward in every setting she was employed in from a NYC hospital to outpatient practices, and a Collaborative Integrative Office, before she inevitably started her own business in 2016. She played by “the rules” until she couldn’t anymore. Through her own process of liberation and empowerment, her business was birthed to life. Though her methods were considered unconventional at the time, she was determined and committed to delivering her version of health and wellness with integrity, in the way in which it was meant to be, through her wisdom, her experience, her perspective, and her intuition, without any parameters set upon her by any outside force.
Nearly 2 decades later Anu is an intuitive, channel, and embodiment of The Divine Feminine, integrating the worlds of science, medicine, healing, and energy offering wellbeing on all levels.
Through this work, Anu helps change-makers, thought leaders, and all walks of life from all across the world access their full potential.
